View Full Version : Important: Yanks planned Nerve gas "test" on Aust Troops.
Shadow
07-06-2008, 05:59 PM
More UGLY YANKS ACTIVITIES and IDEAS information coming out now.
...........and they have the audacity to brand other nations all kinds of names!! As a friend in Australia says : THE YANKS ARE MAD ( INSANE ) making them the biggest threat to life on this planet
US military planned nerve gas test on Aust troops
Posted Sun Jul 6, 2008 9:05am AEST
Updated Sun Jul 6, 2008 11:23am AEST
The US was planning to test Sarin and VX nerve gas on up to 200 Australian combat troops. (AAP Image: Alan Porritt)
Defence files have revealed the United States military was planning to test deadly nerve gas on Australian troops in a far north Queensland rainforest in the 1960s.
Australian Defence Department files obtained by Channel Nine show the US was planning to test Sarin and VX nerve gas on up to 200 Australian combat troops by aerial bombing areas around Lockhart River.
The plan never went ahead, but American survey teams inspected the proposed testing site.
The prime minister at the time, Harold Holt, vetoed the plan.
His former staffer, Peter Bailey, says the Australian government was concerned that its Cold War alliance with the US would be damaged if it did not acquiesce.
"If they weren't pretty good and pretty faithful to the Americans we would be dumped, so I think ministers were very aware that this was probably our one main support," he said.
Former Democrats Senator Lyn Allison has told Channel Nine the current Government should make the documents public.
"There's apparently a whole unit which the minister says didn't conduct testing but I think we need to know what they were doing and it is time for these documents to be released," she said.
"Let us have a look at what was being contemplated just 40 odd years ago - it's not the deepest, darkest history of Australia we're talking about."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/06/2295601.htm
......... Astonishingly deplorable !! One hates to think of the stuff that "we" don't know ......YET. about these kinds of considerations , plans and "operations".
shame and shameful "america". the word 'america' belongs in quotes now as it has a totally different connotation (reality) from what it pretends to be.
UShadItcoming
07-06-2008, 06:11 PM
They are the present day equivalent of the Nazis and need to be referred to as the US or some other name. America represents both North America and South America and should never be used to describe them. They took the name wrongly in the first place or when it was first used to describe them. They are only 'of America' as is Canada and all the other countries which make up 'America'.
ciaranxavier
07-06-2008, 06:19 PM
They are the present day equivalent of the Nazis and need to be referred to as the US or some other name. America represents both North America and South America and should never be used to describe them. They took the name wrongly in the first place or when it was first used to describe them. They are only 'of America' as is Canada and all the other countries which make up 'America'.
they are modern nazis? i think thats a poor relation. they are more like the english in colonial times but even then they are in their own ballpark and i dont think you can relate them to any imperialistic country to date. if they were nazis they would be persecuting jews.
Shadow
07-06-2008, 06:27 PM
They are the present day equivalent of the Nazis and need to be referred to as the US or some other name. America represents both North America and South America and should never be used to describe them. They took the name wrongly in the first place or when it was first used to describe them. They are only 'of America' as is Canada and all the other countries which make up 'America'.
Indeed!! I totally agree that they should NOT be called americans (for the same reasons you indicate) (and I try to use US as much as possible .....because of that). Just another situation where even in name, they imply "ownership" of all AMERICAS. The US has become the malignancy of the planet. Most everyone sees that but them of course.
Just when one thinks they can't go any lower or more devious.......one finds out different. Don't think one can even imagine the stuff that is still held secret by the USG. No wonder they are so paranoid. Look at the dastardly ("evil" for those that use the vernacular) secrets they are keeping. They must be terrified of being found out even more than they are now.
Shadow
07-06-2008, 06:34 PM
if they were nazis they would be persecuting jews.
CX.... were the Nazis about the "supreme race" ( white supremecy etc) and a lot of other destructive /prejudiced ideologies???
the US is also about "white supremecy" even if that has sort of gone underground for the moment.
The US is a mix of most of the destructive ideation that history and time has documented. Particularly when one realizes how very young it still is .A little over 200 yrs is NOTHING on a historical time line. In reality , it is NOT that long (time line wise) that women in the US could not vote. Blacks were lynched with hardly a blink , When one examines the amount and degree of destruction that is part of US history , it is astonishing to realize how they delude themselves with their own propaganda. What is very concerning is that they seem incapable / unwilling to learn from history ..........as is evidenced by their acting in ways that older nations did in the past. Must they relive all the destruction of history in order to develop??? This is holding them back in many ways. They are selectively progressive and only because it fuels their competative ego.
ciaranxavier
07-06-2008, 06:50 PM
CX.... were the Nazis about the "supreme race" ( white supremecy etc) and a lot of other destructive /prejudiced ideologies???
the US is also about "white supremecy" even if that has sort of gone underground for the moment.
The US is a mix of most of the destructive ideation that history and time has documented. In reality , it is NOT that long (time line wise) that women in the US could not vote. Blacks were lynched with hardly a blink , When one examines the amount and degree of destruction that is part of US history , it is astonishing to realize how they delude themselves with their own propaganda.
i dont think the US can be about white supremecy anymore there are to many different cultures inside its borders now. and i must remind you that the americans werent the first to enslave others or refuse women the right to vote. thinking that is just naive.
UShadItcoming
07-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Shadow- I'll try to discuss this with you in private where we won't have to listen to the continuous disruptive babbling of certain moderators.
cx please!
ciaranxavier
07-06-2008, 06:55 PM
Shadow- I'll try to discuss this with you in private where we won't have to listen to the continuous disruptive babbling of certain moderators.
cx please!
lol you really take getting shown wrong hard dont you. and ill gladly discuss this with shadow and not you.
Shadow
07-06-2008, 07:00 PM
i must remind you that the americans werent the first to enslave others or refuse women the right to vote. thinking that is just naive.
CX: I didn't say they were the FIRST That would not be naive, it would be uninformed. What I am saying , when I use those examples is that the YOUTHFUL US should have learned from other nations' history and how destructive those issues were.
It seems that by breaking off into an "independance", they broke off all the information that they should have used about prejudice, slavery etc etc from other nations.
Am I not making myself clear.??? :confused:
UShadItcoming
07-06-2008, 07:01 PM
lol you really take getting shown wrong hard dont you. and ill gladly discuss this with shadow and not you.
cx please!
Shadow
07-06-2008, 07:05 PM
i dont think the US can be about white supremecy anymore there are to many different cultures inside its borders now.
Sure they can. The ruling elite can pretty much do what they want now. Just because it is NOT OBVIOUS to the average person , does not mean that the ideology does not flavor a lot of the USG actions.
Heck, even the "rednecks" in the US think they are superior.;) Try to tell them different. ( but be wary of the shotguns that accompany them everywhere they go ;)
(not sure they are called "rednecks" now. There could well be a new name for them....... with all the PC stuff going on :-)
Gareth
07-06-2008, 07:07 PM
Shadow are you actually suggesting that most people in the US support white supremacism when you say the "US is about white supremacism"? I think that is grossly unfair.
Shadow
07-06-2008, 07:16 PM
Shadow are you actually suggesting that most people in the US support white supremacism when you say the "US is about white supremacism"? I think that is grossly unfair.
Nope. Didn't say that "most people in the US support white supremacy " I did say that the "white supremacy " factor does exist , even if it is a bit underground. A lot of the US still think the white person is somehow "superior" than the "colored folk." You don't see many "white" er caucasian folks doing domestic work for a Mexican , Black or Oriental family.
Sorry folks, I have strayed from topic :o so it is time to get back on track.
Gareth
07-06-2008, 07:23 PM
So, white supremacists exist in every country. Just pop on to www.stormfront.org, and see how many countries are listed there.
A minority in every country think their race is superior to the rest of them.
UShadItcoming
07-06-2008, 07:28 PM
So, white supremacists exist in every country. Just pop on to www.stormfront.org, and see how many countries are listed there.
A minority in every country think their race is superior to the rest of them.
Stay on topic please.
ciaranxavier
07-06-2008, 07:30 PM
Sure they can. The ruling elite can pretty much do what they want now. Just because it is NOT OBVIOUS to the average person , does not mean that the ideology does not flavor a lot of the USG actions.
Heck, even the "rednecks" in the US think they are superior.;) Try to tell them different. ( but be wary of the shotguns that accompany them everywhere they go ;)
(not sure they are called "rednecks" now. There could well be a new name for them....... with all the PC stuff going on :-)
i know the ruling elite is mostly white but that doesnt mean that its a fascist gov. if they were to throw theie colored people in camps who would run their factories? they would literally grind to almost a complete halt. they rely on other colors and nationalities to keep the economy running. ill explain more later but i have to go.
Shadow
07-06-2008, 07:35 PM
if they were to throw theie colored people in camps who would run their factories? they would literally grind to almost a complete halt. they rely on other colors and nationalities to keep the economy running.
indeed. I fully realize that.:(
OK... and now back to what the USG had planned for Australian troops.
The INHUMANITY of it is appalling.
Gareth
07-06-2008, 07:49 PM
i know the ruling elite is mostly white but that doesnt mean that its a fascist gov. if they were to throw theie colored people in camps who would run their factories? they would literally grind to almost a complete halt. they rely on other colors and nationalities to keep the economy running. ill explain more later but i have to go.
More importantly so what if they are white? People of all races would have had to vote them in.
ciaranxavier
07-06-2008, 09:33 PM
CX: I didn't say they were the FIRST That would not be naive, it would be uninformed. What I am saying , when I use those examples is that the YOUTHFUL US should have learned from other nations' history and how destructive those issues were.
It seems that by breaking off into an "independance", they broke off all the information that they should have used about prejudice, slavery etc etc from other nations.
Am I not making myself clear.??? :confused:
i see what your saying now. but sadly more often then not we dont learn from our mistakes, human natures a bitch.
Shadow
07-06-2008, 11:54 PM
human natures a bitch.~~ CX.
you ain't kidding. It is also very stubborn, defiant and unrealistic . (and those are the "good" points.;):)
We don't learn from OUR mistakes. What makes anyone think we will learn from other's mistakes??:confused:
An Céachta Dearg
07-07-2008, 11:52 AM
:p~~ CX.
you ain't kidding. It is also very stubborn, defiant and unrealistic . (and those are the "good" points.;):)
We don't learn from OUR mistakes. What makes anyone think we will learn from other's mistakes??:confused:
No some humans learn from the mistakes of the past. Unfortunately these are called hippies, commies,naive etc etc.
The fact of the matter is the thicks stay in government.
Just put me in charge and everything would be OKAY;):D
Gareth
07-07-2008, 12:50 PM
So you say only people on the left learn from the mistakes of the past? That's a bit oversimplified isn't it?
Shadow
07-07-2008, 07:12 PM
The fact of the matter is the thicks stay in government.
~ RedP
........THAT is the understatement of the century. (with a slight amemendment: ;) NEOCON Thicks.)
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